Pre cbs strat body cracks

Includes insanely rare home movies of the factory in the mid 50s. Home forums main stratocaster guitar discussion forum pre cbs strats before 1966 ultra rare custom color on a 61 strat. Like the body and neck dates, using serial numbers to date a fender is not a sure bet. The 1957 fender stratocaster is so revered now that fender has made many. Our familyowned and operated in ohio business works hard every day to bring you great pricing, timely delivery, and excellent customer service. Mar 09, 2020 1964 fender stratocaster in 3tone sunburst that still has desirable pre cbs features such as the green guard and clay dots. With a contoured alder body, bolton maple neck with maple fingerboard and late 60s headstock, three single coil pickups and standard tremolo system, the affinity series strat guitar has all the vintage vibe at a fraction of the price. Though this one has an ash body, smith strat guitars with alder bodies also exist.

Body strat shape do uble cutaway wood solid hardwood body thickness 1 34 full thi ckness w eight each is app rox. The 1956 fender stratocaster is considered one of true classic stratocasters. I had a really cool pre cbs strat come through the shop a while back. These include whether there are any cracks in the body or neck, if the neck is. By 1963, fender had begun using paint sticks when bodies were being sprayed. Discussion in pre cbs strats before 1966 started by dansbrother. This is a socalled smith strat, where cbs went back to using the old smaller pre cbs headstock. Discussion in pre cbs strats before 1966 started by rjd1802, dec, 2019. The serial number is located on the back metal neck plate. The pickups and pots date to january of 65 while the neck is dated december of 64. It was in 1965 that management of fender transferred to the cbs corporation who had purchased the company from leo fender for million dollars thats two million more than they paid for the new york yankees the year before. Vintage gear tour pre cbs, tweed, 1950s gibson, fender 1960s, blackface matthew scott.

Fender instruments serial number dating guide the music zoo. The chart below details fender serial number schemes used from 1950 to 1964. Back to the main fender vintage guitar info webpage. This is my favorite stratocaster body of all time, and gets you very close to the srv tone. In my opinion, these are the best strat pickups for blues and classic rock. Precbs lefty teles with rosewood boards are hard to find much rarer than the strats. At many points in fenders history, serial number usage overlapped again owing to the modular manner of production. For most collectors, precbs pre1966 fender vintage guitars and amps are the desirable. As cbs cared far more about profits than music, the costcutting it implemented at fender resulted in the latter companys producing. Welcome to pawnshop guitars thank you for visiting us up for sale is a fender usa princeton pre cbs combo guitar amplifier 1964 transition tuxedo amp rare, great lightweight guitar amplifier only made one year, a collectors dream one owner, all original reconed 64 oxford speaker has tremolo, but no foot switch recently serviced, everything working excellent amazing tone and a great. However, the 1956 fender stratocaster is a pre cbs legend and the stuff of dreams. Center seam gives it a very cool look, and it plays and sounds wonderful.

The serial number range for the 62 fender stratocaster is generally 72000 to 93000 on the neck plate. If you have a vintage pre cbs fender stratocaster guitar for sale, please let me know. All factory fitted parts with its original brown tolex case. Discussion in vintage tele discussion forum pre 1974 started by bob1234, oct 17, 20. An area of paint from the body has stuck to the neck leaving a bare spot in the neck pocket that is an exact match to the glob stuck to the neck.

The neck plate serial matches a 59 and the headstock looks right. With the introduction of the stratocaster in 1954, fender set a precedent for sleek body contours that would carry through the jazzmaster, jazz bass, jaguar and beyond. See the previous years 1961 fender stratocaster guitar. There are 2 piece bodies and bodies made from 4 pieces or more. The strat was fitted with the popular precbs style trussrod adjustment and fourbolt neck plate, replacing the cbs bullet truss rod adjustment and threebolt neck plate. Fender switched from ash to alder as their primary body wood in 1956. Shame, because it was an important factor in sweetening the uppermid tone of those classic early 60s guitars. Loaded 2020 fender squier classic vibe 70s jazz j bass body natural. A strat probably sent back to fender for some repair work. Below well go into detail about the various serial number schemes employed by fender as far back as 1950.

In very good overall condition see all photos original sunburst finish shows wear, marks, and small dings. Discussion in pre cbs strats before 1966 started by kid klash, may, 2009. The majority of original alder bodies we have seen are made from 3 pieces. So, each of the pickup routes should have a circle left behind from the router at each end of the route. This bravewood 1961 lefty s type guitar is no exception and is truly a master built instrument a mirror image of a pre cbs 1961 guitar. Is a fullerton avri the closest strat to a pre cbs. Denotes specifically guitars, electric basses and amplifiers made by fender musical instrument company from about 1946 until 1964. This guitar has a 1960 dated neck, but with a later 1964 to 1967 transition logo. Adventures in luthiery crafting a small guitar with a big sound. Gfs guitar necks and bodies for stratocasters and telecasters. Mary kaye appointments consisting of gold hardware on an ash body finished in white blonde nitrocellulose lacquer.

Vintage 1971 usa fender stratocaster guitar tremolo bridge. Fender stratocaster 1963 refin body only d shape neck. This is a really great example of an l series fender strat from 1965 with a transitional logo, clay dots, early white guard and if you cant quite stretch to an original spaghetti logo precbs strat then these are wonderful and excellent value purchases right now. Jul 09, 2019 then id put a standard fender pre 1971 bridge on there but change the strings to raw vintage springs. This shortish video looks at neck pocket cracks the scourge of just about all boltnecked guitars bought online. Discussion in pre cbs strats before 1966 started by dansbrother, apr 15, 2016. With the body, i see a couple of things right off the bat. Original 1962 fender pre cbs slaboard strat body alder wood 334 lbs light weight nail hole and router marks orig contours old black nitro refin bell tone. Do note that the stratocaster logo is still written in a curve. Has been professionally refretted and plays perfect.

Sep 01, 2010 part of a bbc documentary on the history of guitars. The goal of pre cbs stratocasters with this website, i plan to cover everything known about fender stratocasters during the pre cbs era spanning 1953 through 1965. If the body glue joint fails eventually it could be glued up again. With the strat model, fender gave a nod to the past by reinstating the smaller 19541965 pre cbs headstock design however, since the original wornout tooling was used, the strat headstock, though smaller than the cbs era design, was not an entirely accurate recreation of the pre cbs model.

This shortish video looks at neck pocket cracks the scourge of just about all bolt necked guitars bought online. But more thrillingly, the body appears to be korina or african limba, if you prefer. Its worth noting here that cbs standardized the headstocks of all fender guitars except the telecaster using the larger stratstyle design in 1966, so that the stratocaster, jazzmaster, jaguar, mustang and duosonic guitars all had the same headstock, whereas they all had slightly different ones before 1966. If you need to figure out the exact year of your pre cbs fender stratocaster, use the serial number and the general features of the guitar. Building the muchstang cracking the code troy grady. Dressed in an eyepopping finish, this fenderdesigned stratocaster has a great look and feel. Many such new 1963 fender strat guitars still reside comfortably in the possession of the players who made them great. Professionally set up with light gauge strings with a low action and a straight neck. How to date a fender with serial numbers reverb news.

Vintage guitars info fender, collecting vintage guitars fender. See the next years 1963 fender stratocaster guitar. Vintage guitars everything you need to know reverb. These earlier fender reissues are gaining interest as they are getting to be. Fender guitars and basses from before 1965 are collectively referred to as precbs fenders. This 1960 fender stratocaster comes with a newer tweed hard shell case that is sturdy and will keep this beautiful guitar safe for travel. Id try and find anew original pre cbs mint green guard with no cracks in it.

Super rare, amazing beautifull grain with flamed ash body. If a played to death precbs stratocaster is your fantasy guitar, this example from. It also experimented with a new bridge pickup, the x1, and a new pickup switching system that allowed it to access nine different pickup combinations. Overall, the seymour duncan ssl1 california 50s pickups are well constructed to give you the sound that you would expect from a vintage strat. Just the right amount of play wear with a silky smooth neck feel. Serial number range for the 64 fender stratocaster is generally l20000 to l55000 on the neck plate. Plenty of life left in the frets and has never had the switch swapped out for a 5way.

Produced in mid56, this stratocaster embodies everything that makes fenders pre cbs golden era a truly magical time for electric guitars, and specifically for a pioneering, spaceage instrument like the strat. This one is a sought after l series strat, which features a beautiful dark brazilian rosewood curved fingerboard and all the other features of a wonderful pre cbs fender. In mid 1959, fender switched from a onepiece maple neck to a maple neck with a rosewood fretboard. The 1954 fender stratocaster is one of the most iconic guitars in history. In all other regards, youd struggle to find a better custom colour precbs strat with. I had the pleasure of playing it for a little bit and it sounded awesome. Alder is easier on the tools, doesnt need a grain filler, and is still a beautiful yet light wood. I have kept a record of original body weights from over 100 original pre cbs strat alder bodies with trem. Pilar lopez and abigail ybarra and early fender pickups.

It has the spaghetti logo, clay dots, singleply white guard, doubleline kluson tuners, moderate wear on the body with some buckle wear through the wood on the back. Original sunburst finish shows wear, marks, and small dings. On the left, you can see the round string tree of the 1954 strat and the butterfly string tree of the 1956 strat. Vintage guitars info fender custom color finishes on. These knobs too cracked easily, but in general, they did not selfdestruct like. Try a pile of pickups to find the best match to the guitar, most likely 63 black bottoms in the neck and bridge and a low wind grey bottom in the middle. Total ratings 293, fender locking tuners with vintagestyle buttons polished chrome 0990818500. Were pre cbs strats ever offered in nocaster blonde.

Usually there are telltale stamps in the body if this is the case though. A really cool 1962 sunburst precbs strat came through the shop a while back. Hi there im a newbie to this forum and looking to get myself a pre cbs stratocaster at some point. The chart below details fender serial number schemes used from 1950 to. There are also several pre cbs features including clay dots on the side of the neck, green pickguard, and singleline kluson deluxe tuning keys. The only way to try to narrow the date range of your specific instrument is to remove the neck and check the butt end of the neck heel for a production date, which may be stamped or written there if you. There should be three or four nail holes under the pickguard, control plate or bridge plate on every original finish solidbody pre1965 fender instrument.

Ebony frost, super clean and rare color, top of the line. All the original plastic parts are present and correct and the crackfree nitrate. Light and resonant as you would expect from a pre cbs strat. Fender stratocaster electric guitar for sale online ebay. Compare the shape of a pre cbs or early cbs strat body to a 77 or 79, you d be amazed, it s not the same guitar anymore, the grace is gone, the fluidity of the curves are gone, it became a heavy and ugly mass produced thing, coated in the thickest plastic you can get, using the cheapest woods available and totally disconnected from the. Classic series 60s telecaster ss alder body vintage bridge mount black. Home forums main stratocaster guitar discussion forum pre cbs strats before 1966 is this a genuine pre cbs strat. For most collectors, pre cbs pre 1966 fender vintage guitars and amps are the desirable ones. Made with ash, poplar, and paulownia and in many different finishes including sunburst, butterscotch, vintage cream, gloss black, white, mint green, surf green, red and amber. Serial number range for the 58 fender stratocaster are generally 25000 to 30000 some numbers with a 0 or prefix on the neck plate.

Johns work is one of the best and respected around the world for creating vintage pre cbs guitars. The seymour duncan ssl4 can only be described as thick. Follow this product to see new listings in your feed. Part of the charm of a pre cbs strat is a funky condition and that extends to cracked pick guards which are common, albeit common by the screw above the bridge pickup. It plays really well and you can actually bend the strings easily on this one. The plastic parts are all original, and besides the oftseen crack above the. Hence all original precbs fender bodies will have nail holes with no paint in them. What is a pre cbs stratocaster and are they really worth.

Standard series precision bass alder body brown sunburst. In addition to offering a matching headstock the headstock painted to match the guitars body color, the strat incorporated several noteworthy features. Check current prices seymour duncan ssl4 quarterpound pickup set. Charvel socal pro mod body guitar hsh hh route guitar. But, in the summer of 56, the switch was made from ash to using alder for the bodies. What is a pre cbs stratocaster and are they really worth the. I think if youd played a good pre cbs strat you might not feel this way. Notice that there is quite a bit of overlap in numbers and years. Eddie vegas shows you how to tell if you got a real pre.

So in short no a fullerton avri is not a closet pre cbs strat, an mij squier jv or mij fender st62 would be more of a closet pre cbs strat than the fullerton imho. There are lots of builders who can make you a new strat that looks and plays like an old strat did when it was new. Standard series precision bass alder body arctic white. Here is a thing of beauty a fabulous 1963 fender stratocaster in excellent unchanged condition, and finished in stunning, bright sunburst. Tele blackguard pickguard gone pre cbs fender screws. L series fender stratocaster usa 1963 premier guitars. Original hardware in very good condition showing tarnish.

Real precbs strat photos and measurements weybach custom. A pre cbs strat in this condition, and for this price, is soon to be very rare. The sports caresque curves set fenders apart from many other builders, but as cbs management took further control of production, the shape of most fender designs becomes. Im putting together a pre cbs partscaster, although many of the parts actually came with the neck. The finish crack was a little concerning, but im pretty sure its just on the surface.

It was very prone to smoothing out, cracking, or breaking because it was a soft. Vintage 1960 fender stratocaster tech bench youtube. Ash body with black pickguard, natural, hardtail no tremolo. Youtube eddie vegas 1962 fender strat build for adrian in australia maybe. The 5 best strat pickups for blues and classic rock. You might think that the idea of unearthing an alloriginal goldenera fender. Vintage guitars info fender, collecting vintage guitars. Around that same time is the when fender made the switch to alder from ash for the body material. I found an original stratocaster from 1960 in rural virginia last week. Precbs strats before 1966 fender stratocaster guitar. The 1956 fender stratocaster marked one major change. While the official launch began with the release of the 1954 stratocaster we will go back into 1953 during the design phase to show off some pics of a prototype strat. I am going to have to say that fullerton work was so shotty that during the same time in the 80s japan squier was busting out more traditional pre cbs type strats than fullerton. The lacquer is pretty thick and makes things hard to see but the details are still there.

The guitar is virgin inside, shows very little playing wear, and has a very vibrant color. These refinished pre cbs stratocasters bring otherwise highlypriced and collectible instruments into a pricerange for players and mere mortals. Duchossoir is still one the best books for details on fender strats. From about mid 1956 the bodies are mostly american red alder for sunbursts and solid colours and even a few early 1960. Serial number range for the 59 fender stratocaster are generally 30000 to 40000 on the neck plate. Contouring of the body is slightly less dramatic compared to previous models. Its a higher output guitar with big tone definitely in line with the. For one, the sunburst finish switched from 2tone to 3tone and now included red tones along with the black and yellow.

A replacement pickguard would undoubtedly affect the price negatively. You can see some photos of original bodies where the joins are clearly visible at the top of this page. By april or so the location of the pickguard screw between the neck and middle pickup is moved about 12. I have an opportunity to buy a hardtail original 59 strat. Telecaster blackguard screws 100% vintage accurate strat bodies. The strat designed by gregg wilson took things a step further by incorporating a return to a smaller, though inaccurate, pre cbs style headstock. Classic series 60s telecaster ss alder body vintage bridge mount olympic white.

Nitro finishes, however, crack and yellow with age, and they can check guitarspeak for fine hairline cracks with age or sudden exposure to low temperatures. Home forums main stratocaster guitar discussion forum pre cbs strats before 1966 64 strat body crack. But once again, due to fenders modular production methods and often nonsequential serial numbering usually overlapping two to four years from the early days of fender to the mid1980s, dating by serial number is not always precisely definitive. And many came back to fender to have the neck and body. In 1965, company founderowner leo fender retired for health reasons and sold his company to columbia broadcasting system. Vintage 1960s fender stratocaster knob set precbs strat. But theres no one who can build you a strat with wood thats been played in for 45 years. Nosguitar vintage guitar sales pre cbs fender stratocaster. The neck to neck pocket fit will be perfect unless you want it to look sloppy like many originals the neck profile and dimensions will be made to fit your hand and technique you can choose within limits the weight of the guitar and the sound dark or. Up for sale, a 1956 fender stratocaster in excellent condition and in perfect working order. Other things to check are pickguard holes additional holes with paint in them or other strange features that cross years like a pre cbs strat with 1966 pot date codes and a white not green pickguard. But theres no one who can build you a strat with wood thats been played in. Serial number range for the 60 fender stratocaster are generally 40000 to 58000 on the neck plate.